Melinda I think it is so ~ people are desensitised to this. You know, after we heard you in Warrnambool, another friend who was there, commented how she walked past adverts in windows of shops & just accepted it ~ she admitted she was probably desensitised to it all as you had mentioned that night, & was going to change that….hope she has!
Just makes you feel so ill, but thankfully organisations like Collective shout is doing something & I’m sure there are others ~ always hope in the darkness 🙂
I skimmed the Wikipedia description of the film’s plot and am lost for an adjective foul enough to describe this. It’s not art, and it’s certainly not entertainment – R18 is a truly pathetic excuse for a rating for this film, and one which makes an absolute joke of the classification process. Quite frankly it needs not only to be banned but the makers and distributors prosecuted (something which I understand may well be on the cards in its country of origin…). Thank you for this stand against it.
The phrase ‘sexual freedom’ is commonly used by pornographers and male film makers who believe films such as ‘A Serbian Film’ are indeed ‘sexual freedom in action’ because men must continue to be accorded their misogynistic women-hating right to make films showing men graphically subjecting women and girls to sadistic male sexual violence. Men want to see these films because it not only titilates men it also reinforces male supremacist beliefs that women are not human therefore ‘no human was harmed.’ Men are not content with just (sic) committing violence against women – no it has to be male sexualised violence because men enjoy sexually subjecting women to sadistic sexualised torture.
What we want is an end to men’s continuing belief they have the right to film sadistic male sexual violence against women and call it ‘sexual freedom’ or rather ‘male sexual freedom to commit whatever sexual violence they wish against women and girls.’ We women demand that male supremacy be eliminated and the first step towards this elimination is men’s recognition and acceptance (yes I know it is hard for men to accept women are human not men’s disposable sexual service stations) that women have the inherent right to be accorded human dignity and respect.
This right has been accorded to men for centuries because men awarded themselves the right of ‘human status’ but this right has still not been attained for women.
Reverse the sex of those who in this film are being subjected to violence to one showing men being raped and beaten by other men and I have no doubt the Classification Board would swiftly decide A Serbian Film is sadistic male violence against men and should not be given a certificate. Or change the focus wherein it is white men who are subjecting non-white men to sadistic sexualised violence and again there would be a resounding call for withdrawal of this racist (sic) film. But because the victims are women and girls male supremacist system does not recognise this film is misogynistic which promotes and claims male sexual violence against women is ‘entertaiment.’ In fact this film is ‘entertaiment’ because no human was harmed or shown as being harmed because women are not human are we?
I doubt many people in this country have seen this film as it was intended to be seen. It is a horror thriller which seriously addresses the mainstreaming of hardcore pornography in the 21st century. It is a serious, well-made, brilliantly acted work of art. It is also upsetting and intensely depressing. Many of the most powerful images of violation are presented as the drugged dreams of the main character, Milos, who is the primary victim of this film. Think about that for a moment – every evil act in the film is centred on destroying this sympathetic man’s life and family. Yes, this involves him being manipulated, his body being objectified, his sex drive commodified and him (attention Jennifer Drew) literally raped in an allegory of a Serbian war atrocity. Milos is played very intelligently by Srđan Todorović, one of Serbia’s most respected actors. I don’t believe he or his reputation were harmed in the making of the film. Neither were any of the other actors, female or minor. The film is effectively edited so that no child actor was actually present during the shooting of a scene of violence or violation. The scenes of family life in Serbia and Milos’ realisation that the economy is so compromised by war that he will have to very reluctantly return to making porn films to support his family are desperately poignant and something that anyone who has survived a stint in pornography would find relevant and moving. Contrast the care taken with child actors by the makers of A Serbian Film to a Steven Spielberg picture (Twilight Zone: The Movie) where 2 children who by law shouldn’t have been on the set were decapitated by a helicopter. That was real. You can see the footage on the Internet. A Serbian Film is a fictional film intended for thinking and reasoning adults. And you can also see that on the Internet. From the Australian context, I’d say the victim here is Accent Films.
David, if you” doubt that many people in this country have seen this film as it was intended to be seen”, & “it is intended for thinking & reasoning adults” then is it really making a positive difference in helping people to see the horrendous repurcussions of war, sadistic, misogynist porn being one of them? Converting the converted? I wonder how many of these “thinking & reasoning adults”, (would you include judges & lawyers in that category?), have ever taken ACTION to stick up for, speak up for, defend, protect, a female victim of rape, or any other violent crime for that matter. The conviction rate for rape of females in Vic. is declining..about 1.3% last time I checked. Please don’t read that to mean that rape is of females is on the decline. It isn’t. Get real mate. Rape of females & children, which is supposed to be considered one of the most heinous & punishable crimes, is probably the most committed global crime in the history of the human race that the criminal got away with & still get away with. The war on females is still in full swing.
Altho’ Milo may be a victim of the horrors of war, he is not as you strongly imply, absolutely powerless..his choices are very limited but he still has choice. Rape victims in REALITY don’t have choice. And the child actors which you seem so concerned about , didn’t have any choice about being used & manipulated to appear in this horror movie. The lack of care & the terrible consequences for the children on the Speilberg set was obviously a tragic mistake so the comparison is deceptive. My guess is that this horror porn movie has on the whole, attracted & fuelled the mainstream ugliness you say it opposes. We don’t NEED it mate.
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Melinda I think it is so ~ people are desensitised to this. You know, after we heard you in Warrnambool, another friend who was there, commented how she walked past adverts in windows of shops & just accepted it ~ she admitted she was probably desensitised to it all as you had mentioned that night, & was going to change that….hope she has!
Just makes you feel so ill, but thankfully organisations like Collective shout is doing something & I’m sure there are others ~ always hope in the darkness 🙂
I skimmed the Wikipedia description of the film’s plot and am lost for an adjective foul enough to describe this. It’s not art, and it’s certainly not entertainment – R18 is a truly pathetic excuse for a rating for this film, and one which makes an absolute joke of the classification process. Quite frankly it needs not only to be banned but the makers and distributors prosecuted (something which I understand may well be on the cards in its country of origin…). Thank you for this stand against it.
The phrase ‘sexual freedom’ is commonly used by pornographers and male film makers who believe films such as ‘A Serbian Film’ are indeed ‘sexual freedom in action’ because men must continue to be accorded their misogynistic women-hating right to make films showing men graphically subjecting women and girls to sadistic male sexual violence. Men want to see these films because it not only titilates men it also reinforces male supremacist beliefs that women are not human therefore ‘no human was harmed.’ Men are not content with just (sic) committing violence against women – no it has to be male sexualised violence because men enjoy sexually subjecting women to sadistic sexualised torture.
What we want is an end to men’s continuing belief they have the right to film sadistic male sexual violence against women and call it ‘sexual freedom’ or rather ‘male sexual freedom to commit whatever sexual violence they wish against women and girls.’ We women demand that male supremacy be eliminated and the first step towards this elimination is men’s recognition and acceptance (yes I know it is hard for men to accept women are human not men’s disposable sexual service stations) that women have the inherent right to be accorded human dignity and respect.
This right has been accorded to men for centuries because men awarded themselves the right of ‘human status’ but this right has still not been attained for women.
Reverse the sex of those who in this film are being subjected to violence to one showing men being raped and beaten by other men and I have no doubt the Classification Board would swiftly decide A Serbian Film is sadistic male violence against men and should not be given a certificate. Or change the focus wherein it is white men who are subjecting non-white men to sadistic sexualised violence and again there would be a resounding call for withdrawal of this racist (sic) film. But because the victims are women and girls male supremacist system does not recognise this film is misogynistic which promotes and claims male sexual violence against women is ‘entertaiment.’ In fact this film is ‘entertaiment’ because no human was harmed or shown as being harmed because women are not human are we?
I doubt many people in this country have seen this film as it was intended to be seen. It is a horror thriller which seriously addresses the mainstreaming of hardcore pornography in the 21st century. It is a serious, well-made, brilliantly acted work of art. It is also upsetting and intensely depressing. Many of the most powerful images of violation are presented as the drugged dreams of the main character, Milos, who is the primary victim of this film. Think about that for a moment – every evil act in the film is centred on destroying this sympathetic man’s life and family. Yes, this involves him being manipulated, his body being objectified, his sex drive commodified and him (attention Jennifer Drew) literally raped in an allegory of a Serbian war atrocity. Milos is played very intelligently by Srđan Todorović, one of Serbia’s most respected actors. I don’t believe he or his reputation were harmed in the making of the film. Neither were any of the other actors, female or minor. The film is effectively edited so that no child actor was actually present during the shooting of a scene of violence or violation. The scenes of family life in Serbia and Milos’ realisation that the economy is so compromised by war that he will have to very reluctantly return to making porn films to support his family are desperately poignant and something that anyone who has survived a stint in pornography would find relevant and moving. Contrast the care taken with child actors by the makers of A Serbian Film to a Steven Spielberg picture (Twilight Zone: The Movie) where 2 children who by law shouldn’t have been on the set were decapitated by a helicopter. That was real. You can see the footage on the Internet. A Serbian Film is a fictional film intended for thinking and reasoning adults. And you can also see that on the Internet. From the Australian context, I’d say the victim here is Accent Films.
David, if you” doubt that many people in this country have seen this film as it was intended to be seen”, & “it is intended for thinking & reasoning adults” then is it really making a positive difference in helping people to see the horrendous repurcussions of war, sadistic, misogynist porn being one of them? Converting the converted? I wonder how many of these “thinking & reasoning adults”, (would you include judges & lawyers in that category?), have ever taken ACTION to stick up for, speak up for, defend, protect, a female victim of rape, or any other violent crime for that matter. The conviction rate for rape of females in Vic. is declining..about 1.3% last time I checked. Please don’t read that to mean that rape is of females is on the decline. It isn’t. Get real mate. Rape of females & children, which is supposed to be considered one of the most heinous & punishable crimes, is probably the most committed global crime in the history of the human race that the criminal got away with & still get away with. The war on females is still in full swing.
Altho’ Milo may be a victim of the horrors of war, he is not as you strongly imply, absolutely powerless..his choices are very limited but he still has choice. Rape victims in REALITY don’t have choice. And the child actors which you seem so concerned about , didn’t have any choice about being used & manipulated to appear in this horror movie. The lack of care & the terrible consequences for the children on the Speilberg set was obviously a tragic mistake so the comparison is deceptive. My guess is that this horror porn movie has on the whole, attracted & fuelled the mainstream ugliness you say it opposes. We don’t NEED it mate.